Turbo Inspection
Photos and comments



Overall this is a solid, capable airplane. It has seen use, and is not a showpiece, but virtually all of the inner workings I was able to inspect are in excellent condition and show an ongoing high level of consideration and care.

There are signs of some substantial repairs in the past, although all indications are that these were properly done and the airplane has been flying for some time without issues. As you look through the pictures you'll see some bolts where there should be rivits, and extra doublers in certain spots.

As we discussed verbally, there is quite a bit of filiform corrosion on this airplane, although it is still in a controllable state. Some areas should be addressed soon, as you'll see noted in the information below.

I know you indicated that costmetics are not a concern for you, but there are quite a number of cosmetic issues. There are also quite a few things that should be addressed soon, and a number of clues for future work to be done. As we have discussed, these factor into the pricing, and you have taken them into account in your negotiations.

The number of pictures may be daunting (looks like there are about 157 pictures here) but don't let that start to feel like a 'score' on this airplane. Its rare to find less than about 50 items of interest on any working airplane, and some of these are pictures of good things... although not many.

You'll see a theme or two emerge: for example we're always looking for corrosion, even when we don't find much. This one has plenty to look at, just a few spots that you'll want to take immediate action on.

On some airplanes I'll take a picture of some filiform and say 'the whole wing is covered with this.' That is not the case here... rather I found filiform corrosion in certain areas and tried to take note of all of them. There will be a few more areas with a touch of filiform, but not large areas.

There are a lot of things right about this airplane, and its worth noting that I didn't capture most of them with a picture. Bumpers in the right place, well done safety wire, good baffle seal... you expect those things to be right and they are. Besides, that's hundreds of pictures and not much data.

Regarding the logs, its always interesting to see evidence of issues on the airplane, then find their detection and resolution in the logs. There are a few such details noted below, and this again is normal. An airplane that is flown and well maintained will develop cracks, wear spots and issues over time, so we're not looking for an absense of issue, rather the quick detection and proper handling of them. On this airplane that was evident.

It is a lot to read... take your time and take notes if you wish, as come annual time you'll be trying to remember all the things you were planning to do! As I told the buyer in this case, it's like buying a house. When you first walk through you see a lot of things you want to change, but live there a few years and you can't even see them. So take notes on that first walk-through... you'll need them later!

Keith Peterson

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Very strange tip treatment.
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One missing screw, a little filiform in the corner
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Check out the rust on the tiedown ring... usually the fastest way to see if an airplane has been in a damp place. It has a little, not an issue but reasons to inspect more deeply.
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Pitot tube is heated... should be painted red. No sign in the logs that the SB to change the grounding wire location (to avoid stall warning problems) was accomplished. Year 2 project.
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Wing tip cracks... not too bad, but should be stop drilled at first annual. Interesting washer use.
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A little hangar rash... should buff out at first annual.
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Note the lifted tab. Probably hooked with a polish rag. On some airplanes this can almost hook up with the wing skin, but this one has plenty of room. Should try to push it down a bit at first annual... may not push at all.
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Lightning holes are open, original tape missing... a sign that it had anticorrosion at some point. Its in the logs... 2005 I think? Just a data point... does not have to be covered.
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Interesting flap skin wrinkle... not too bad, could probably be pushed down, worth a try first annual.
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Long screw in the underwing fairing, looking forward from the flaps... not good! replace ASAP. See next picture.
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This little dent is what that long screw does. It will wear a hole in the flap if you let it go, then it will hook and cause real problems.
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Cover missing over the baggiage door cover. New cover.. you can get this little part but probably not critical.
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Seal detail... baggiage door has wrong seal, it will leak in the rain. If you're parked indoors it will last 2+ years, parked outdoors you may want to do this soon.
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Closer detail on wrong baggage door seal.
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Little rivet by baggage door looks like a pulled rivet... there were several like this around the airplane. Might be dirt or a paint flake in the center of a standard rivet. Its ok, just a sign that there have been some repairs done across the years. Most seem to be single smoking rivets replaced.
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Windows are a little foggy, but doesn't show too bad in flight. Probably a few years left in this as long as its not parket outdoors.
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Difficult picture.. up into an inspection panel. Discoloration along the bottom.. old fuel tank Pro-seal, from the outside. No signs of leaks... should be ok.
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Another shot of pro-seal
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Door handle is a little recessed... a wear item. Frankly I've never had to fix one of these... not too critical to address right away.
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Door seals.. picture is sideways, sorry. A little old and tired.. should be addressed at some point. Will help with sound levels and heater operation.
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More door seal...
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Better capture of the door seal issues, just a couple of spots like this.
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Another door seal spot.
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Guess I got this twice...
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Stab tip stiffener is a little flat in this one spot, cosmetic.
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The last screw in the nottom of the tailcone, at the top of this picture, is usually a countersunk screw. Probably not a big deal...
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The stab brackes is original... should consider replacing with steel brackets at some point in the future. These tend to crack, although it has never become a serious problem.
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It has static wicks on most surfaces, although this one is missing its thread.
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On tailcone... screws in a place where most have rivets. Airworthy, more signs of past repairs, before paint.
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Filiform on stab spar carrythrough
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Patch inside the cowl... cause by a prior screw in a bad place.
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Holes a little worn in several places, might be a candidate for camlocs at some point.
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Enlarged hole around Southcos
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Another Southco somewhat worn.
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Inside of cowl... some corrosion, should really be cleaned, zinc chromate, perhaps painted
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Tail tiedown ring is bent, worn from the tail touching the ground on landing... it happens
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Interesting bolts on belly, evidently was an antenna or two on the belly at one point.
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Battery hose is rather long, easy to trim. Worth checking inside battery box to make sure its connected properly.
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Another bolt on the belly.
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A little rust, surface corrosion, more signs its been in a damp environment.
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Touch of filliform on the aileron end cap.
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Wing tip crack, should be drilled at annual
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Perhaps pulled rivets in end cap? and a touch of filliform again.
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Wheel covers/hub caps are from a 172, the hole is for the axle extension which holds the wheel pants on them. Not a big deal, but better to keep water out of there.
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Cleveland wheels, but no hub caps on the nose wheel.
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Nose wheel hook is bent.. needs to be straightened at the next annual, when the gear can be swung and clearances confirmed.
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Another shot of the bent hook.
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Nose door link is rusty, bent. Needs to be fixed at next annual
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Both ends of nose door link rusty. One is easy to find, the other hard... un-bent one should be at least cleaned and painted.
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Wow, difficult picture to see. Nose door hinge is a little loose, needs to be beefed up at first annual
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Wear point on nosegear door, should check alignment and adjustment on next annual gear-up check.
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Loose safety wire on the side door links, a little dirty.
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Nose gear hoses are newish, but are low pressure and may be a little short... should check carefully and perhaps replace with higher pressure ones.
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Steering rod... rusty, should be cleaned and painted.
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Shimmy dampner, looks good but no paint.. has had some attention at some point, perhaps a rebuild. No sign of problems, just signs of maintenance
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Rusty nose door actuator, could use cleaning and paint to stay happy. A good annual project.
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Roller link interferes with heater scat tubing... tubing needs to be pulled upward and secured.
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Note gaps in hinge... a sign of wear. One side nose gear door is warn, the other is not. No issue for a while yet.
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Nose strut was a little low, but clean and evidently well cared for.
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rubber bumper is in good shape.
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Door hinge repair, seems well done. Strangely the books talk about a right door repair... wonder if that's a typo.
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Oil cooler, seems like the older, small one but I could be wrong... may be a chance to improve cooling, should talk with TATI about this.
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Cowl seal is in bad shape. Not sure how much you should care... it's a pretty easy repair with a bunch of pinched rivets, but there is the problem of paint.
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More about the cowl seal.
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Two hoses exit over the left cowl flap...seem a little too close.
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A screw in a bad place on the baffle seal, can wear cowl and make holes in time...
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Nice cowl seal, although they may be a little longer than they really should be...
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High output alternator.
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Safety wire on oil fill tube is streached, leaves the tube loose.
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Attempt to show unconnected manifold drain line tube... see later picture.
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Injector is a little rusty.
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Firewall should be cleaned up at some point. 2nd annual perhaps?
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The alumunim drain tubes are in good shape, although one of then is not connected at all... the manifold drain line. Instead there is a separate hose, not sure why.
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Another view of the bent nose door link.
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Left door is missing a spring. Not a large issue, it may even be in the door still, but a repair is needed to get it to hold the door open fully.
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Sorry so fuzzy... breakers are a little strange tucked behind these holes in the panel.
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Dual avionics busses, interesting approach.
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Mixture control is a slightly different style than original
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Black plastic is faded... cosmetics.
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Missing mic clip. Inexpensive part.
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Kick panel, showing cosmetic issues.
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Yokes are covered with a foam thing, a little warn but it does soften and warm the touch.
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more yoke... sorry, rotated.
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One more yoke
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Little fill panel at bottom of stack could be better executed.
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Bottom of rear seats needs to be re-glued to seat frame.
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Rear seats were not bolted in fully , he says he leaves it loose when not in use, but will before the sale.
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Headliner sections are different colors, clearly different ages.
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A few small chips from vent. Cheap part, should replace before too long as its clearly brittle.
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Cute little tabs to try to hold up the sun visors... they don't quite do it though.
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Cracks by rear window
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more cracks by rear window, loose window trim
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Back of rear seat... paint over the original interior is getting chipped off by use.
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Poor paint job on baggage door holder track. Could be done much better. Looks like laquer over an enamal primer.
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Side panel near rear bulkhead... another crack./gap
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closeup of cracks by rear window.
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Two screws hold in the rear bulkhead... not usually done, although they seem to work ok.
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Slightly rusty screws, note filiform below right screw. Hard to see...
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Gear leg bumper, unusual mounting. It was noted as replaced in the logs.
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Smoky belly can be cleaned up.
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ome cracks in gear leg tunnels, although they are in pretty good shape overall.
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One missing screw in the gear well.Easy fix at first annual.
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Quite the row of bolts on the belly... I don't recall seeing these on other RGs but will have to check to be sure.
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In the wing, discoloration by spar cap, a little corrosion dust on rivets. Mechanic thought it was anti-corrosion discoloration, which makes some sense. The corrosion dust is not to bad, buty would be wiped off. Might be time for another dose of Corrosion X.
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Another view of the discoloration.
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Blurry.. quite a bit of stripped paint flakes in the wing, might be nice to brush that out over time.
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Trying to show filiform... didn't turn out very well. Was very bright out, hard to see viewfinder!
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More filiform
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More filiform
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Steel rotors, cleveland wheels and brakes, that's good.
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General shot of gear pump, etc. extra little circuit breaker.
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Autopilot computer, interesting bend on the connector.
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ELT mounting...
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Top of the strange bolt in the belly.
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There is another bolt there somewhere...
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One more of the autopilot computer
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Circuit breaker in back... probably for gear running light.
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RG battery, looks new.
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Back side of bulkhead, missing the crossbar.
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More back side of bulkhead.
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Nice new beacon
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Nice new beacon
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one more time...
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Missing string on the rudder static drain.
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Spring on cylinder baffle is not fully connected.
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Wrong kind of fitting, will make vacuum pump work harder.
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Left side baffle... strange bolt instead of a spring. Probably works fine, but not normal.
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Note hole below started, will let cowl pressure out and reduce heater function.
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Another view of gap below starter
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More gap, also bumper.
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General shot of the engine...
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Wear on spinner from old bumper plate repair.
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More wear on spinner and bulkhead
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Note the weights from prop balance.
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Has a modern voltage regulator...
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Seats are a little tired, white leather shows the dirt.
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Another seat shot.
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Loose screw on interior, right door near hinge.
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White paint over black plastic heater output. Needs to be cleaned up... looks ugly.
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Door seals, right door. Not too bad...
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Masking tape still on right door handle.
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Pulled rivet on spinner, perhaps should have been drilled and filled before painting.
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A little clear coat issue on the cowl.
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Wear on door jam... the hinged are a little worn but the doors work well.
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Closeup on door hinge, just a little loose. Right one is better, as usual.
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Another view of wear on spinner.
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Wear on lower cowl... cause has since been repaired.
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Left headlight is missing the eyebrow.
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Note eyebrow over right, none over left.
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Left hubcap... also a 172 cap.
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Spring missing or not working, left door.
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One more odd screw, in rear fuselage.
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interesting paint spatters on right front corner of panel. Should clean up with thinner.
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Right door handle, a Ford handle.
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Filiform on leading edge.
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Filiform on stab spar
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Top of cowl, couple of loose rivets. Pretty common... should be addressed at annual to avoid more wear.